Dim light bar for non-rallye cluster

[Dons R/T]

Hi. Got a 70 Challenger. I can't see my speedo/gauges at night. The 3 lights work, but are very dim. They dimmer switch is all the way up. I can dim them to completely off with the switch, so does that mean the switch is OK? The bulbs are #1893 incandescent. Is there some kind of reflector inside the light bar?Also, what is the blue light in the attached photo? It doesn't go on with the other 3 lights? Thanks a lot.

 

[Adam]

On my Ramcharger I upgraded the gauge lights to led bulbs, they are much brighter, and you can use the blue covers, get colored bulbs, or go white.

like these 1893 replacements: United Pacific 38567 4 Micro LED 1893 Bulb, Blue(2 Pack)

 

[Dons R/T]

Ok. I thought the non-rallye cluster only had 3 lights and all 3 of mine are pushed into their respective holes. The one with the blue cover looks like it is facing outward and at an angle. I'm totally confused now.

 

[marks ebody]

That lite is a light package when you open the door that light and the key light would light at the same time so you could see to turn on light switch and where to put your key

 

[Challenger RTA]

Check the ground first. use a wire connect to a good ground and to light bar or outside of socket. Alligator clip wire or bare end jumper wire.

 

[EW1BH27]

For one thing you have the wrong light bar. In my picture the top is for a standard dash (3), the bottom one is for a rallye dash(4).

 

[HemiCap]

Hi. Got a 70 Challenger. I can't see my speedo/gauges at night. The 3 lights work, but are very dim. They dimmer switch is all the way up. I can dim them to completely off with the switch, so does that mean the switch is OK? The bulbs are #1893 incandescent. Is there some kind of reflector inside the light bar?Also, what is the blue light in the attached photo? It doesn't go on with the other 3 lights? Thanks a lot.View attachment 102395

I put blue LED in mine and left the blue cover off.

 

[Challenger RTA]

This is what it should be wire to. Title lamp is what it is.

 

[MoparCarGuy]

Hi. Got a 70 Challenger. I can't see my speedo/gauges at night. The 3 lights work, but are very dim. They dimmer switch is all the way up. I can dim them to completely off with the switch, so does that mean the switch is OK? The bulbs are #1893 incandescent. Is there some kind of reflector inside the light bar?Also, what is the blue light in the attached photo? It doesn't go on with the other 3 lights? Thanks a lot.

Question: I can dim them to completely off with the switch, so does that mean the switch is OK?
Answer: The dimmer switch may be defective and not supplying full voltage to the light bar bulbs even if it allows you to adjust them from dim to OFF.

Question: Is there some kind of reflector inside the light bar?
Answer: Yes, the bulb is reflecting on the interior silver-painted surface and light shines out through the blue-green plastic lenses.

Question: What is the blue light in the attached photo?
Answer: Yes, as marks ebody replied, that extra bulb is part of the A01 - Challenger Light Group. You should see the other lights listed in the salesman's pocket guide list below on your car.

This LINK has a lot of info on the 1970 Challenger instrument cluster light bars.

 

[Dons R/T]

Thanks all. I will check the ground. Also ordered some blue LED bulbs. It was only like $10 for 20 of them on Amazon. I figure if only half of them actually work, I'm still ahead. After ordering them I realized the light bar windows are green. Green and blue makes purple haha. Yes, I have the standard light bar and the non-rallye cluster. It's not a real S/E R/T.

 

[Dons R/T]

Thank you moparcarguy, challenger rta, ew1bh27, hemicap, adam and marks ebody! It is very clear to me now. Fantastic links, photos, diagrams and info. Even the fact that Challenger light bars were curved is interesting.

 

[MoparCarGuy]

You may find that white LED bulbs work better when filtered through a colored lense.

 

[EW1BH27]

Even the fact that Challenger light bars were curved is interesting.

That applies to 1970 Challengers only, '71 to '74 were not curved. I know this for sure, 100%

 

[Challenger RTA]

There's no reason why you can't wire into the light bar if you want the light

 

[Dons R/T]

You may find that white LED bulbs work better when filtered through a colored a

Thought of this at first, then ordered what they call ice blue because I was afraid clear might be annoyingly bright. Now, I'm thinking like you. I'll see how the blue works out. They're actually described as ice blue and look lighter than the regular blue so maybe it will look ok.

 

[Dons R/T]

Fixed the ground and put in some ice blue LEDs and it looks fantastic. The wire on the light on the right was too short to allow me to insert the bulb back in the tube. That's probably why it had a shorter 1445 incandescent bulb in it. Just ordered some shorter LED bulbs. Thanks for all the tips.

 

[73Banana]

Fixed the ground and put in some ice blue LEDs and it looks fantastic. The wire on the light on the right was too short to allow me to insert the bulb back in the tube. That's probably why it had a shorter 1445 incandescent bulb in it. Just ordered some shorter LED bulbs. Thanks for all the tips.

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I replaced the "blue light" upper left with an led and blew the fuse. I would stay with regular bulb on that one.

 

[Katfish]

I went with LEDs and its much brighter
Yellow LED with the blue lenses gives the green light