How much would this cuda be worth?

[ryan1522]

Looking at a cuda - haven't seen it yet, but 1970 B7 440 (E86). Motor is not numbers matching, '68 440. Looks like decent paint and trim. Broken motor mount. 15 year old paint job and underbody. Automatic tranny w/ 3:55 gears.

some paint flaws supposedly

 

[MOPARMITCH]

In order to get a response from anyone here, you will have to post up many more pictures of the car. Including undercar frame rails, floors, trunk, etc. Perhaps get a pic of the fender tag. These cars can be all over the board as price is concerned. Off the cuff guess, with out any other information, 8K - 20K

 

[DetMatt1]

Love the color combo. If the interior is great, the car is very straight and never rusted and has a fender tag and or a build sheet and is a BS car it could go for north of 20. I'm going to say with the info provided that it should be somewhere between 10 and 24K.

 

[mmissile]

It could have 50 gallons of bondo, and a bunch of chicken-wire holding it together. Impossible to know, without LOTS of details. Even then, without actually seeing the car....it's a guess. Find someone you trust[and has knowledge] to go over the car with you. Then you can figure it's value.

 

[DetMatt1]

Yep, that's the way to go right there.

 

[js29]

A picture is worth a thousand words, but not seeing potentel problems could cost thousands of $$$ a fifteen year old paint job that was what i call a stuff and buff would have come apart by now. when i look at the wheel wells i like to see spot welds if i don't that tells me the quarters had been worked. then door seams fender dog leg area frame rail trunk floor floor pans. that will set the stage for a value, hope this helps

 

[ryan1522]

This is all I have. To give you reference they are looking to get $32K. Is there much value in a 440 car but not original engine? How much do fender codes add in value outside of Hemi's, 6 pack, or like high impact colors?

 

[ryan1522]

geez I never see anything that nice for $10-24K! 10K is crap. I missed a '70 barracuda (cuda clone) w/ 318 stroker and lots of upgrades in disc, suspension, rims for $25K that would need paint eventually.

 

[moaparman25]

Yeah I would say, based on what I CAN see, 22-30k, obviously a real inspection would dictate where

 

[DetMatt1]

It keeps getting better but a lot still depends on the interior and what lurks under the paint but I'm not seeing 32K.

 

[KATSAAR]

never 32k
wrong color
headers gotta go
how hi is that intake.
is that a chevy alternator bracket.
what else is wrong.

 

[DetMatt1]

Color still rocks in my opinion. I see a lot fewer of these than purple and lime green...

 

[ryan1522]

Thanks for all the replies. Of course I haven't see it but I've been searching nationwide for 6 months and it is very rare to find cars like this for less than $25K. Sure you can find plenty of '72-74 cudas in that range but 70-71 not really. I'm confused why some think only $20K? Show me those cars, I will buy!!

What fender options really matter outside of "BS" and "Hemi"? I'd love to spend only $20K, but I'm having a hard time finding anything good. I'm only looking for a '70. Personally I really wouldn't care if it is numbers matching or not because I would like to make it more of a pro-touring cuda. Probably put a 340, 440, or 426 in it.

Seems like you really need to get to about $40K to not have issues in a Cuda unless it is a '72-74. Why are 70's so hard to find? They made the most of them.

 

[ryan1522]

never 32k
wrong color
headers gotta go
how hi is that intake.
is that a chevy alternator bracket.
what else is wrong.

What do you mean "wrong color"? Wrong B7 color? Or you think it should be a different color completely?

 

[Bill]

Great thread. Keep in mind I'm a novice. I think everyone knows that most of us don't have an old Cuda or Challenger to make money. If this is the car you "want" then it is going to be worth more than if it is a car you "kind of want" or "kind of like" or "like but not exactly not what I want". 2-1/2 years ago when I purchased my 73 Rallye 340 Challenger project car it seemed like the only thing that was important to me was the fact that it had a pistol grip. The fact that the car had a pistol grip probably had a $8,000 value to me. It was a project car that I purchased for $6,200. At first I think I budgeted the final restoration at about $12k to $14k. I'm currently up to over 20k with about another $4k to 5K to go. I'm doing it because I am having the time of my life learning and working on my E body. With a total of about 25 k into the car with labor cost only being about 2k of that, it is only going to worth about 20k to 25k+ at best. These old E bodies are all over 40 years old. If a fender, quarter, rocker or door has a lot of mud in it or if anything is drastically broken on the car then "FIX IT". One thing I can't help to keep in mind is..... "they don't make 1970 Cuda's any more".
With all that being said.. I gotta agree that if the paint is old that is a good thing because any bad body work would of shown up by now. Obviously do the old magnet trick around the body to check for mud but even then mud or no mud, it can be fixed. Hagerty insurance has a tool where you can put together a value of a vehicle.
Good luck!

 

[R4Sedan]

Okay, I'll go. Their isn't a lot of pictures,but here's my input for what it's worth. IFit has a solid body than the asking price isn't far off. You obviously are not buying to re-sell. I think 28-30. Look at positives from what I can see "U" code car B-7 Nice color. That car in #1 condition would be what 55k-60K car. Most importantly do you like it? Get more pictures and info from seller.

 

[ryan1522]

http://www.collectorcarads.com/Plymouth-Cuda/57431

So this can go for $32k too. Curious, is this better?

 

[ryan1522]

Great thread. Keep in mind I'm a novice. I think everyone knows that most of us don't have an old Cuda or Challenger to make money. If this is the car you "want" then it is going to be worth more than if it is a car you "kind of want" or "kind of like" or "like but not exactly not what I want". 2-1/2 years ago when I purchased my 73 Rallye 340 Challenger project car it seemed like the only thing that was important to me was the fact that it had a pistol grip. The fact that the car had a pistol grip probably had a $8,000 value to me. It was a project car that I purchased for $6,200. At first I think I budgeted the final restoration at about $12k to $14k. I'm currently up to over 20k with about another $4k to 5K to go. I'm doing it because I am having the time of my life learning and working on my E body. With a total of about 25 k into the car with labor cost only being about 2k of that, it is only going to worth about 20k to 25k+ at best. These old E bodies are all over 40 years old. If a fender, quarter, rocker or door has a lot of mud in it or if anything is drastically broken on the car then "FIX IT". One thing I can't help to keep in mind is..... "they don't make 1970 Cuda's any more".
With all that being said.. I gotta agree that if the paint is old that is a good thing because any bad body work would of shown up by now. Obviously do the old magnet trick around the body to check for mud but even then mud or no mud, it can be fixed. Hagerty insurance has a tool where you can put together a value of a vehicle.
Good luck!

Bill, I've looked at hagerty before and I'd assume those prices are based on all numbers matching? Even a #4 was $30k! That's why it is interesting values mentioned have been so low from what I see out there. What is decrease for no number matching motor?

 

[CaseyCuda]

It's funny I'm building exactly this car so I'm interested in the price. But my two cent take them or not. The car is worth what you're willing to pay. I bought a rust bucket 70 for 2,500. I've spent over 8k and all I have to show are floors trunk and quarter panels. ( hell the only panel I am not replacing is the damn roof lol) but that's my labor of love. I plan to never sell. You need to judge wether the cost is right to you. The car looks good and to me price is fair. Now unless it's got some extreme rare option which from what I have seen and read it does not. Make it what you love and get used to the idea your going in the hole. if you love these cars your going to be in the hole. If you don't you can buy cheap do a terrible job fixing it and resell for value. It's a little too clean to buy and make a protouring car in my book but it's not my money. Build what you like I saved my girl.