stuck in the middle

[LoGear]

i took on a project of a 1970 challenger RT. My issue is that it was numbers matching 340 4 speed with factory ac and power steering with a rotisserie restoration that is 2/3rds done that has been sitting in a heated garage for approximately 15 years. During that time the fender tag and build sheet have been misplaced. I really want to finish this thing as original as possible but haven't been able to come up with any idea of exactly the way is should be. i believe i have tried everything that i could find on the internet and have gotten nowhere. i also need details on placement of everything in the engine compartment. and am in need of some parts.

 

[70chall440]

First off, welcome, please post some pictures of the car.

Well it isn't secret how they were put together, there are a number of restored and survivor cars out there which you can compare to. Start a build thread and then ask the questions you have, post ads in the WTB section for things you need or want.

 

[fasjac]

Welcome to the site from Arkansas

 

[LoGear]

Welcome to the site from Arkansas

thanks. i just posted some pics of what i am working with. i believe the car will be amazing when it gets done.

 

[moparleo]

Here are the books you need to be "correct".

Products | MMC Detroit

 

[DetMatt1]

Welcome to the site from the Motor City! If it’s an original 340 car then it’s not an R/T. Does the vin start with JH23H0? If so you have a standard Challenger with the A66 340 performance package.
nice car whatever it started out as though.

 

[rklein71]

Sure is a pretty car. I believe there were no 340 RTs in 1970, I see on the site that they are referred to A66 cars. I have no idea why the Challenger RT could not be ordered with a 340, yet a Cuda could.

 

[340challconvert]

LoGear
to FEBO from New Jersey
You have a really nice looking A66 Challenger!
In 1970 Dodge was originally not planning to install the 340 in a Challenger. It was a late decision to do so. They are all JH 23/27 H coded cars and not RT's.
When the late decision was made to add the high performance A66 option, these cars were not readily available until October 1969. (340 RT Challengers were made available for the 1971 model year)
I maintain the A66 Registry for the Challenger A66 group. If you are willing to pm me your serial number, I can match it against the information in the A66 Registry to see if it had been registered in the past or consider adding your car to the Registry.
Thanks
Phil
https://a66challenger.com/

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I am posting information below of what was standard on the A66 Challengers as per Hamtramck - Historical

- per the '70 Dodge "salesman's pocket guide" 9/23/69 version:
CODE A66 - Challenger 340 CID engine package - $258.90
NA Special Edition (29), NA R/T (JS)
15" Rallye wheels (W21) - required at EXTRA cost
collapsible spare (W34) - required at EXTRA cost

this changed at some point - as the following shows

per the '70 Dodge "dealership data book" no date found
CODE A66 - Challenger 340 CID engine package - includes
340 engine - E55
F70-14 RWL tires - T87
R/T hood
H.D. brakes
H.D. suspension
"bumble bee" stripe
"scat pack" decals
wheel lip mouldings "DELETED"


Quick Synopsis

 

[fasjac]

i took on a project of a 1970 challenger RT. My issue is that it was numbers matching 340 4 speed with factory ac and power steering with a rotisserie restoration that is 2/3rds done that has been sitting in a heated garage for approximately 15 years. During that time the fender tag and build sheet have been misplaced. I really want to finish this thing as original as possible but haven't been able to come up with any idea of exactly the way is should be. i believe i have tried everything that i could find on the internet and have gotten nowhere. i also need details on placement of everything in the engine compartment. and am in need of some parts.

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Definitely looking good!

 

[Rapidfire]

Welcome to FEBO! Nice Challenger! Thanks for the pics!

 

[LoGear]

LoGear
to FEBO from New Jersey
You have a really nice looking A66 Challenger!
In 1970 Dodge was originally not planning to install the 340 in a Challenger. It was a late decision to do so. They are all JH 23/27 H coded cars and not RT's.
When the late decision was made to add the high performance A66 option, these cars were not readily available until October 1969. (340 RT Challengers were made available for the 1971 model year)
I maintain the A66 Registry for the Challenger A66 group. If you are willing to pm me your serial number, I can match it against the information in the A66 Registry to see if it had been registered in the past or consider adding your car to the Registry.
Thanks
Phil
https://a66challenger.com/

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I am posting information below of what was standard on the A66 Challengers as per Hamtramck - Historical

- per the '70 Dodge "salesman's pocket guide" 9/23/69 version:
CODE A66 - Challenger 340 CID engine package - $258.90
NA Special Edition (29), NA R/T (JS)
15" Rallye wheels (W21) - required at EXTRA cost
collapsible spare (W34) - required at EXTRA cost

this changed at some point - as the following shows

per the '70 Dodge "dealership data book" no date found
CODE A66 - Challenger 340 CID engine package - includes
340 engine - E55
F70-14 RWL tires - T87
R/T hood
H.D. brakes
H.D. suspension
"bumble bee" stripe
"scat pack" decals
wheel lip mouldings "DELETED"


Quick Synopsis
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how do i pm you?

 

[fasjac]

how do i pm you?

Just tap the avatar, start conversation and send your message. Easy, he’ll get it.

 

[LoGear]

someone posted some manuals yesterday that are for sale to assist in restoring a challenger. i can't find the post. could you possibly repost?

 

[fasjac]

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And go to to my mopars.com to download free repair/service books. A must do in my opinion.
Leo posted the mmc Detroit site to get the book you need to show exactly as how these cars were assembled at the plants.
If you want it right, these can’t be replaced.
Keep playing around with the site, you can search by key words and/ or members.
There’s a load of knowledge here but, if your doing some of or all of it yourself, should at least download the free repair book. You don’t have to print the entire book as you can access each section your working on and print pages you need.
It will help you along with asking questions to the members. Good luck to you.

 

[moparleo]

The MMC manuals are on sale right now as well.

 

[340challconvert]

LoGear
Thanks for submitting your serial number.
In the A66 Registry a car previous to yours (115 SN) has a scheduled production date of October 28th. The closest car after yours is 116495 (was sold by a dealership in Ohio) has a SPD of October 31, 1969.
Most early A66 Challengers are LA built (HOE) just as your car is. Your car was mostly likely built between October 28th and October 31st, 1969. October was a very prolific month for e-body production. These other cars were also 4 speeds.
I can postulate from your photos the following:
- Y-1 paint with black interior H6X9
- Black vinyl top V1X
- Hood black out V21
- A66 - 340 Performance package
- Engine E55
- Trans D21
- Standard dash (w the 2 speed windshield wiper)
- Dual chrome mirrors G33 G31
- Rim blow wheel S83
- Pedal dress up J41
- AC H51
- Factory rear speakers dual R31

Summary Notes:
- You have a brake master for disc brakes (manual-no power) Were disc brakes added?
- Grill is painted black; original would have been argent. RT emblems and side stripe added. Common things to see on many A66 Challengers added by owner
- Common option A01 on the tag would give you glove box light, trunk light, map light, ignition light & lights-on buzzer, If you have these lights you have A01 on tag.
- An early car like yours would likely have come with the 15" wheels (mandatory purchase on early A66 cars) Collapsible spare would have been mandatory with the wheels.
- Check to see if you have sure grip & ratio tag. Common to see 3:55 gears w a 340 (w AC could be 3;23's)

Let me know what other options you found in the process of your beautiful restoration. Hope this was a helpful start.
Phil (A66 Challenger Registry)

 

[moparlee]

LoGear, welcome to the site from Michigan!
That A66 is very nice and we are to help.

 

[fasjac]

The MMC manuals are on sale right now as well.

I saw that too! I’ll be picking up another one as well.

 

[LoGear]

LoGear
Thanks for submitting your serial number.
In the A66 Registry a car previous to yours (115 SN) has a scheduled production date of October 28th. The closest car after yours is 116495 (was sold by a dealership in Ohio) has a SPD of October 31, 1969.
Most early A66 Challengers are LA built (HOE) just as your car is. Your car was mostly likely built between October 28th and October 31st, 1969. October was a very prolific month for e-body production. These other cars were also 4 speeds.
I can postulate from your photos the following:
- Y-1 paint with black interior H6X9
- Black vinyl top V1X
- Hood black out V21
- A66 - 340 Performance package
- Engine E55
- Trans D21
- Standard dash (w the 2 speed windshield wiper)
- Dual chrome mirrors G33 G31
- Rim blow wheel S83
- Pedal dress up J41
- AC H51
- Factory rear speakers dual R31

Summary Notes:
- You have a brake master for disc brakes (manual-no power) Were disc brakes added?
- Grill is painted black; original would have been argent. RT emblems and side stripe added. Common things to see on many A66 Challengers added by owner
- Common option A01 on the tag would give you glove box light, trunk light, map light, ignition light & lights-on buzzer, If you have these lights you have A01 on tag.
- An early car like yours would likely have come with the 15" wheels (mandatory purchase on early A66 cars) Collapsible spare would have been mandatory with the wheels.
- Check to see if you have sure grip & ratio tag. Common to see 3:55 gears w a 340 (w AC could be 3;23's)

Let me know what other options you found in the process of your beautiful restoration. Hope this was a helpful start.
Phil (A66 Challenger Registry)

it does have front disc brakes and . also power steering and a rally dash and a console along with nos hood pins and 15 inch wheels. I have also recently found the names of the last two owners and i am hoping to get a picture or some info on the car from one of them from before the restoration was started. the car was last titled in Albuquerque in 2003. i Was told by the las owner that the car was taken to Canada around 2012 for restoration and the older gentleman that owned the business had gotten sick and wasn't doing well so they took the car back to Pa in the stages that you see it in now. it sat that way for eight or so years until now.

 

[340challconvert]

LoGear
I will update the data on your car. It would be great to be able to speak to previous owners to obtain information your car.
As I said before; your car is looking exceptional!
A66 Challengers are unique. IMO

it does have front disc brakes and . also power steering and a rally dash and a console along with nos hood pins and 15 inch wheels. I have also recently found the names of the last two owners and i am hoping to get a picture or some info on the car from one of them from before the restoration was started. the car was last titled in Albuquerque in 2003. i Was told by the las owner that the car was taken to Canada around 2012 for restoration and the older gentleman that owned the business had gotten sick and wasn't doing well so they took the car back to Pa in the stages that you see it in now. it sat that way for eight or so years until now.