What is the stock oil pan number for a 1970 Challenger 440?

[HooToTheCore]

I've seen 440 oil pans with the following numbers: 187, 402, 699, and 971. Not sure of their applications except the two 187s I have were from '71 Imperials.

 

[pschlosser]

There are differing oil pans between the low and high performance 440 varieties, but they are the same for both the E and B bodies. In other words, the correct oil pan for your application came on both B and E bodies. The higher performance pans hold more oil.

If you want the best you can have, and still be OEM, then you want a 564 pan. They repop these, now, and I think 440 source has the pans and pickup tubes for this application.

* works for 440 E-body
The "402" 1970-71 B/E-body 383/440. 4.5-inches deep, holds 4 quarts.
The "971" 1973+ B-body 400/440. 4.5-inches deep, holds 4 quarts.
The "564" 1970-71 B/E-body 426/440. 5.0 inches deep, holds 5 quarts. (contains no stamp number in the pan)

* doesn't work for 440 E-body
The "187" 1965-71 C-body 383/440. 5-inch deep, holds 4 quarts. (doesn't work for E-bodies)
The "699" 1972+ C-body 440. 4-inch deep, holds 4 quarts. (doesn't work for E-bodies)

 

[Xcudame]

The 440 Source pan is so close to the 564 pan for the 426/440 pan, I doubt anyone would notice once it's painted. For $100 it's hard to beat.

Oil Pan - 6 quart - 66-72B Body / 70-74E Body - Plain Steel

 

[HooToTheCore]

There are differing oil pans between the low and high performance 440 varieties, but they are the same for both the E and B bodies. In other words, the correct oil pan for your application came on both B and E bodies. The higher performance pans hold more oil.

If you want the best you can have, and still be OEM, then you want a 564 pan. They repop these, now, and I think 440 source has the pans and pickup tubes for this application.

* works for 440 E-body
The "402" 1970-71 B/E-body 383/440. 4.5-inches deep, holds 4 quarts.
The "971" 1973+ B-body 400/440. 4.5-inches deep, holds 4 quarts.
The "564" 1970-71 B/E-body 426/440. 5.0 inches deep, holds 5 quarts. (contains no stamp number in the pan)

* doesn't work for 440 E-body
The "187" 1965-71 C-body 383/440. 5-inch deep, holds 4 quarts. (doesn't work for E-bodies)
The "699" 1972+ C-body 440. 4-inch deep, holds 4 quarts. (doesn't work for E-bodies)

Does the 187 not work for e bodies due to interference with steering linkage?

 

[pschlosser]

Does the 187 not work for e bodies due to interference with steering linkage?

I think that's right. The bulge (sump) may be too far forward on the C-body oil pans for the B/E-body.

 

[Vinny]

There are differing oil pans between the low and high performance 440 varieties, but they are the same for both the E and B bodies. In other words, the correct oil pan for your application came on both B and E bodies. The higher performance pans hold more oil.

If you want the best you can have, and still be OEM, then you want a 564 pan. They repop these, now, and I think 440 source has the pans and pickup tubes for this application.

* works for 440 E-body
The "402" 1970-71 B/E-body 383/440. 4.5-inches deep, holds 4 quarts.
The "971" 1973+ B-body 400/440. 4.5-inches deep, holds 4 quarts.
The "564" 1970-71 B/E-body 426/440. 5.0 inches deep, holds 5 quarts. (contains no stamp number in the pan)

* doesn't work for 440 E-body
The "187" 1965-71 C-body 383/440. 5-inch deep, holds 4 quarts. (doesn't work for E-bodies)
The "699" 1972+ C-body 440. 4-inch deep, holds 4 quarts. (doesn't work for E-bodies)

So, is it necessary to buy a new pickup, if my 1970 B body already had a 440, 375 horse factory engine? Specifically my matching numbers Superbird, for example.

 

[pschlosser]

So, is it necessary to buy a new pickup, if my 1970 B body already had a 440, 375 horse factory engine? Specifically my matching numbers Superbird, for example.

Only IF you do not have a matching pickup for the oil pan you want to use.

The oil pans vary in their dimensions and configuration, so too does the pickup vary for these different pans. If you already have the correct pickup, use it. But they are, relatively, low cost. So if you're unsure if yours is correct, buy another.

 

[Xcudame]

This oil pickup from 440 Source looks to fit all the pans Pschlosser listed above for "pans that will fit an E-Body".

Oil Pickup Tube 3/8 - Curved - 4 -1/2 Depth