Flat railed oil pan 383

[7DCUDA383A]

I have a stamped 402 oil pan now but I want to use the molded windage tray from Summit , the only thing is the dual ribbed gasket on the windage tray , to me , doesn't seem to work with the 402 oil pan with dimples , I looked but not sure if there is a flat railed 5qt pan out there , any out there for a 383 727 .

 

[moparlee]

I know there are guys who have used that gasket/windage tray combo on stock pans with success. Moroso pans do have a flat gasket surface but not in a stock looking pan.

 

[7DCUDA383A]

I know there are guys who have used that gasket/windage tray combo on stock pans with success. Moroso pans do have a flat gasket surface but not in a stock looking pan.

Does someone make a flat surfaced pan in a 5qt . that you know of , maybe 6qt .

 

[Xcudame]

The gasket/windage tray will work with the stock pans just fine. Believe it or not, the dimples help with sealing. 440 Source sells a nice 6 quart oil pan.

 

[7DCUDA383A]

The gasket/windage tray will work with the stock pans just fine. Believe it or not, the dimples help with sealing. 440 Source sells a nice 6 quart oil pan.

I just tried to test fit the tube and pan , looks like the tube is crooked , I have done it twice , any info on these , it's in the center of pan I think , hard to do on the ground.

 

[Daves69]

Yikes, that's a bunch off level. Is that a straight tube pickup?

You might consider a different pickup......

Mancini Racing 402 Oil Pan Pickup

 

[7DCUDA383A]

View attachment 137577

Yikes, that's a bunch off level. Is that a straight tube pickup?

You might consider a different pickup......

http://[URL][URL]https://www.manciniracing.com/mara402oilpa.html

[/URL][/URL]

Thats the one I have

 

[Daves69]

Thats the one I have

Is it reasonably level with the block rail at "any" point of a thread revolution?

 

[7DCUDA383A]

Is it reasonably level with the block rail at "any" point of a thread revolution?

The longest point from the rail is 4.25 in and the shortest is 3.5 , I know it says the tube can make contact at the bottom of pan but the part that sucks is like an inch of the bottom of pan .

 

[Daves69]

I wouldn't use that pickup as is. Bending the bottom to conform might breach the screen and allow too large of particle into the pump and lock it up.
I might try bending the tube a bit out of the engine. I'm not suggesting you try that though.
Maybe someone else has dealt with this and will chime in.

 

[7DCUDA383A]

I wouldn't use that pickup as is. Bending the bottom to conform might breach the screen and allow too large of particle into the pump and lock it up.
I might try bending the tube a bit out of the engine. I'm not suggesting you try that though.
Maybe someone else has dealt with this and will chime in.

I emailed the pics to Mancini , I am a Mopar fan but not a mechanic with years of knowledge but understands car stuff .

 

[moparleo]

The pickup must be parallel to the pan bottom and touching, per the factory service manual. Windage need trimming some times..

 

[7DCUDA383A]

The pickup must be parallel to the pan bottom and touching, per the factory service manual. Windage need trimming some times..

I don't see away to flatten that out , I don't have a machine shop , and yes the windage tray does need to be cut a bit plus want to put more holes in it , the thin little lines doesn't seem good enough.

 

[Xcudame]

Usually you can tighten the filter a little bit more to make it level (think vise-grips). If it needs to be looser to level, use some pipe Teflon tape on the threads. Believe it or not, the slots are more than adequate and most oil will run off the rear of the tray on.

 

[7DCUDA383A]

Usually you can tighten the filter a little bit more to make it level (think vise-grips). If it needs to be looser to level, use some pipe Teflon tape on the threads. Believe it or not, the slots are more than adequate and most oil will run off the rear of the tray on.

Not sure if I can turn this , ok on the tray.

 

[Xcudame]

Turn the tube! Sorry for any confusion!

 

[7DCUDA383A]

Turn the tube! Sorry for any confusion!

Tube won't turn no more to the block , it's pretty tight in that pic .

 

[Xcudame]

Then remove it and apply the Teflon tape and re-tighten stopping at the point its level. That should work.

 

[7DCUDA383A]

Then remove it and apply the Teflon tape and re-tighten stopping at the point its level. That should work.

I'll try again tomorrow , but does it need to be in the center of pan .

 

[Xcudame]

the filter only needs to be flat and close to touching the bottom of the pan. It can be offset to one side or the other. If memory serves, the filter sets closer to the passenger side for some reason. Kind of depends on the manufacturer I guess.

When to remove the oil pickup, notice how the filter part of it moved around in relation to the pre-bent pipe. That will help you know when to stop tightening.