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1970 4 door cuda?!?!

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Pictures of the front and rear really don't show how many doors it could have. A side view would nail it.

I wonder if this is one of the original three? (lol) We should probably have a cover to keep the windows from leaking. Come to think of it, it doesn't even have windows................yet!

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I wonder if this is one of the original three? (lol) We should probably have a cover to keep the windows from leaking. Come to think of it, it doesn't even have windows................yet!

If anyone is interested in this car you can PM me for more details. I'm not interested in turning this into an online debate or mockery. Thank you.
 

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Here are a few pictures of the first primer stages of the underside and the "custom" Interior pads we are making to fill the voids next to the rear seats. I had dense foam glued together that will be shaped to fill those bare pockets of space. Ignore how it sticks out in the picture below. We are in the very early stages of sculpting their correct shapes. Once the back side is shaped to fit the rear Fender, the front side of the Pad will be shaped to run along the side edge of the Rear Seat. They will be covered with the same vinyl material that matches the rest of the Interior. One of the pictures also shows the custom A Pillar ending that had to be formed for the Vinyl Top Trim.

I have a ton of updates and will post them as the photos are processed. We will also have a blog (coming next week) for those who want to see the work on a daily basis. Stay tuned!

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It looks like that car does exist. It just doesn't "exist" with more than its 2 doors! (lol)

The condescending attitudes of Mr. ECS was expected. Instead of reaching out, he reluctantly dismissed all information.

A quick web search has verified his angry character and abusive attitude whenever anyone else has questioned the historical significance of this car.

People should just ignore ECS's rants and focus on constructive research. I will be doing the same. In that regard I'm planning a trip to see the yellow car....

Until that time, I'm sure he will continue to become infuriated with every commencing post, and lose credibility with every self-serving objection. This man certainly didn't do any research before embarking on this project, nor does he know much about how Chrysler operated during that time period.
 

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Usually with prototypes and experimental vehicles they don't have a VIN and because they have not been approved by management or passed safety tests they never leave the factory. Why would they sell or allow someone to take the car and then latter on it is involved in a situation beyond the manufacturers control and which insurance company is going to insure this thing? Normally they aren't built to the same standard as a production car they are just slapped together I've heard some of them have panels just brazed on rather then spot welded and all sorts of short cuts to save time. A company like Chrysler would not allow this thing to see the light of day and possibly come back to haunt them and damage their image it is just nonsense.
 

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Usually with prototypes and experimental vehicles they don't have a VIN and because they have not been approved by management or passed safety tests they never leave the factory. Why would they sell or allow someone to take the car and then latter on it is involved in a situation beyond the manufacturers control and which insurance company is going to insure this thing? Normally they aren't built to the same standard as a production car they are just slapped together I've heard some of them have panels just brazed on rather then spot welded and all sorts of short cuts to save time. A company like Chrysler would not allow this thing to see the light of day and possibly come back to haunt them and damage their image it is just nonsense.

This car will never be driven or used as a road car. The numbers being assigned are only allocated to facilitate the protocol build requirements that would have been used on a Factory vehicle. I just called the Director of the NICB to discuss a few additional details concerning the "phony" VIN being assigned to the car. This is actually no different than the cars being built by people like Chip Foose or (the late) Boyd Coddington. Could this Concept tribute pass and comply with all Federal Safety Standards from the 1970 era? Absolutely! For me, this 4 Door will never be anything but a big roll around " functioning model" that is used to showcase the "What If" factor from back in the day.
 

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Here are additional pictures showing various things that had to be altered in building this car. All of the Window/Door Mechanisms had to be cut, reconfigured and re-welded to work properly within the new Door configurations. (I included a "BEFORE & AFTER" photo one particular example.) The car was then completely disassembled and reworked to make sure that all of the Body Panels were as perfect as could be. This included the front, sides, back and every area that will never be seen once the Car is assembled for the final time.

I also had Factory Exact California "Turn Down" Mufflers made for the car at a pretty hefty cost. (Pictures of the first few prototype End Caps are pictured below.) The plus side of having this done is that I am manufacturing enough units to offer them to the Chrysler Restoration Market. This style of Muffler will be one of the "new" products that is a direct result from the building of this Concept vehicle. Here are some random photos showing some of these aspects & features.

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This car will never be driven or used as a road car. The numbers being assigned are only allocated to facilitate the protocol build requirements that would have been used on a Factory vehicle. I just called the Director of the NICB to discuss a few additional details concerning the "phony" VIN being assigned to the car. This is actually no different than the cars being built by people like Chip Foose or (the late) Boyd Coddington. Could this Concept tribute pass and comply with all Federal Safety Standards from the 1970 era? Absolutely! For me, this 4 Door will never be anything but a big roll around " functioning model" that is used to showcase the "What If" factor from back in the day.
I was talking about the yellow car BH41HOB is mentioning as for your project I can see no reason for it not to be on the road it is as good as any other Barracuda surely there must be a way to have it licenced people build hot rods and kit cars all the time an engineer's report and some testing and it should be good to go.
 

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Looks like 71 -up B-body door hinges. Did you use B-body door frames ?

If you go back to the first 2 pages of the thread, most of that information was covered in greater detail. The Doors are "B Body" frames that had to be cut apart and re-shaped to work with the E Body outer skins.
 
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Below are a few photos showing where Steve put the Body VIN stampings and the dip process of the priming/Seam Sealing. Even thought this car was never actually manufactured, we are building it with all of the Factory nuances and details that you would expect to find on a Assembly Line vehicle.

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Boy, you sure didn't skimp on the seam sealer. Wow.

That "ugly" look was exactly the amount that we have documented on other vehicles. We could have easily made it look nicer and smoother but that would have not mimicked the Factory appearance that we were trying to match. They did the Seam Sealing step fairly quickly on the Assembly Line and it wasn't very pretty! (lol)
 

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I am with Leo on the seam sealer. Wow. I guess when all is painted and same color it will minimize the visual stand off appearance.

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