Borgeson power steering unite

[Lee W.]

trying to install a new Borgeson steering box and am having trouble removing my steering column. The hole in firewall is not big enough to remove it with the old universal joint on. How would I go About removing that coupler? It is a 72 cuda floor shift.

 

[tonysrt]

There is a roll pin on the coupler that has to be removed. I used a plumbers faucet handle puller to remove mine. You may need a very long center punch to get it out because it's probably pretty tight in there.

 

[Chryco Psycho]

there are 3 bolts on the floor to remove the plate around the column , then it fits through just fine .

 

[Lee W.]

I did find the small pin but unfortunately I had already pulled the column down and the punch just bounces. so I will go with Chryco Psycho suggestion and pull the floor plate and pull the whole thing out. Thanks for your help!

 

[Rons340]

It's like Chryco Psycho explained, Remove the three bolts from the firewall and the entire column unit can be removed. Then you can secure it in a vice to remove the pin and cut the shaft to install the joint.
I have installed a Borgeson unit on my Challenger with no problems.

 

[Lee W.]

Now that I have the old steering box out. What do I do with it? Is any one in need of a used 72 cuda steering box or is it just junk now?

 

[Rons340]

Now that I have the old steering box out. What do I do with it? Is any one in need of a used 72 cuda steering box or is it just junk now?

The way that I did mine was to mount the new Borgeson box to the K-member, with the new steering joint installed on the box, then bolt the k-member in the car for a test fit. Set the steering column back in place and carefully mark the steering shaft length long enough to seat fully into the joint, then remove the column from the car and cut the shaft to length.
That should get you ready for a proper install when you reassemble everything permanently.

 

[Lee W.]

That is what I planned to do putting the steering column back in for the measurement. them remove it to cut to length. As far as the k-member I have a big old 440 sitting there so not to easy to remove it. My question was getting rid of the old steering box. Thanks for your reply I am glad I am on the same page with some one.

 

[tonysrt]

You don't have to cut the shaft when going from power steering to the Borgeson box. Only when going from manual to P.S., as long as you have the Bergman coupler. I've done 2 and never had to cut shaft, 71 Cuda & 74 Duster, and both had P.S..

 

[Lee W.]

That would be great I'll try that out today & see how it fits. thanks!

 

[Lee W.]

Well it worked out I did have to cut the shaft 1/2"

 

[Rons340]

Well it worked out I did have to cut the shaft 1/2"

Yes, I did too.
Glad it worked out for you.

 

[theshado]

Now that I have the old steering box out. What do I do with it? Is any one in need of a used 72 cuda steering box or is it just junk now?

Now that you mention it... I recently found out the input shaft on my 72's is bent! Is your steering box power?

 

[Lee W.]

steering box was power but since I had no interest in it I took it to the dump

 

[theshado]

steering box was power but since I had no interest in it I took it to the dump

Darn, so close! Thanks anyway.

 

[Rons340]

Darn, so close! Thanks anyway.

The are super hard to get right now. That's one reason I went with the Borgeson unit.

 

[Montclaire]

steering box was power but since I had no interest in it I took it to the dump

Core charges on new boxes are around $250. It should have been worth at least a 50 spot to someone.

 

[Lee W.]

I asked the question a month ago what can I do with it. no one answered then so to the dump it went

 

[theshado]

Just go to the dump and get it back. Lol jk

 

[BillJ]

Hi Gents I am going from manual to power. There is no way that the Mopar original looking Borgeson coupler is going to work. (See Pic) I called Borgeson and the owner told me to hammer in the shaft. I think that is a bad idea. Any comments? Ron 340 what universal did you use.... I like it. Of course someone on this board said you could get vibration. Bill