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Questions on Pistol Grip Shifter Boot, Galvanized Ring, and Stainless Trim Bezel

MoparCarGuy

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I am still working on my auto-to-manual conversion (Tremec TKX 5-Speed) and have questions on where the galvanized trim ring with 8 screw holes goes.
Does it go above the rubber boot to sandwich it to the transmission tunnel like the pictures below and use only the screw holes not used by the stainless trim bezel?
Then, the stainless trim bezel goes on after installing the carpet, sandwiching the carpet?

Just confirming to get it right.
Shifter Boot Screw Loactions.jpg
1970 Plymouth FSM 4-Speed Manual Gearshift Mechanism - Disassembled IPB.jpg
 
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I haven't taken enough 4-speed cars apart to be certain, but I believe that the lower trim ring gets installed on TOP of the carpet using the four screw holes that aren't used by the upper stainless ring. The upper ring then gets added just as a decorative cover. Pretty sure that's the way mine was when I got it in '88 and the way I still have it set up now.
 

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Carpet first, then boot with integral ring and four screws, then the finish trim ring with its four screws. If you install the boot first you will trouble fitting the carpet around it.
 

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So the question remains,

Top to bottom:
Stainless bezel
Carpet
Galvanized ring
Rubber boot
Transmission tunnel hump


OR

Stainless bezel
Galvanized ring
Carpet
Rubber boot
Transmission tunnel hump


I think the first makes more sense since it would secure the boot to the hump and seal out air/water underneath the carpet.
 
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Carpet first, then boot with integral ring and four screws, then the finish trim ring with its four screws. If you install the boot first you will trouble fitting the carpet around it.
I was planning to prefit the carpet before the boot, remove it, then install the boot and sandwich it to the floor with the galvanized ring. Carpet next, then stainless bezel and finally the console.
I can see how fitting the carpet perfectly could be an issue with so many moving pieces.
 

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I think you are missing the option suggested by Moparlee and me,

Stainless bezel
Galvanize ring
Rubber boot
Carpet
Transmission tunnel hump
I do see the benefit in that. Carpet can be done once and eliminate an error in the hole cutting.
Carpet edge exposed underneath but how much “weather” would even get up in there to make a difference?
 

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The first order. My car has the original carpet.
I believe the galv ring goes under the carpet - you need to pull the carpet hole a bit to get on to the screws and work around the shifter handle.
The chromed bezel goes on top of the carpet to tidy up the ragged hole.
 

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Get the carpet in place first. You need to be able to work "through" the shifter hole in the carpet.
You will not be able to lift the carpet over the installed shifter handle nor do you want to remove the carpet if you want to take the gearbox out.
A trial fit is a good idea - the shifter handle goes in to the rubber boot then install the shifter lever handle.
Then work the shifter boot and then the galv ring through the hole in the carpet.
 

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I gave that some thought. What makes ¢ is the boot to seal form the exterior.
Top to bottom:
Stainless bezel
Carpet
Galvanized ring
Rubber boot
Transmission tunnel hump.
When I was stationed in Philly. A storm flooded the low area roads. When going across a flooded street about 2' deep. A little water was coming up through the top of the shifter boot. Later in a day or two puller the boot up to see how wet. not bad just a little damp. boot was on the tunnel first.

NOW I'M going to have to go look how I did mine?
 
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UPDATE: Consensus is that the factory did it this way. Carpet is already in place and the hole precut. The pre-assembled galvanized ring/boot assembly is inserted through the hole in the carpet and attached directly to tunnel hump which seals out the elements. The galvanized ring secures the boot to the tunnel with the four black screws. The hole in the carpet is now overlapping the galvanized ring/boot assembly and the stainless bezel is secured with four chrome screws thus sandwiching the carpet to the galvanized ring/boot assembly.
Top to bottom:
Stainless bezel
Carpet
Galvanized ring
Rubber boot
Transmission tunnel hump


I updated the factory drawing to reflect the carpet and display the above installation.
1970 Plymouth FSM 4-Speed Manual Gearshift Mechanism - Disassembled IPB - EDITED with Carpet s...jpg
 
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