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Setting timing for first start

bullet18

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Im gonna be honest, ive never actually worked with a distributor before so i dont know how to set one up. I installed this new HEI distributor because the old stock distibutor ran through a brain box and had all the wires cut as well as having a broken cap. I know... chevy parts but if it means i dont have to spend hours soldering new plugs and troubleshooting the brain box ill put one chevy part on. My main question is how many degrees of timing should i start with on a 8.5 cr 440? Also is the rotor in the correct place for tdc compression stroke on cylinder one? Thanks.

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Easy, but first remember a 440 rotor turns counterclockwise, which is opposite of what you might expect.

Turn the engine over until it is about 10 degrees before TDC, on the compression stroke.

The distributor can be installed any old way, as long as it seats fully into the oil pump drive, but you will probably want the rotor pointing towards #1 cylinder to make the plug wire routing easier/cleaner.

With the eng. in the correct position, and the distributor fully seated, and rotor pointing where you want it, snug down the hold down clamp and run your plug wires (counterclockwise)in the correct firing order.

Hook up a timing light to the battery and #1 wire; turn the ignition to the run position (DO NOT CRANK).

By hand, twist the distributor ccw, then clockwise, while holding the timing light trigger. When it fires, you tighten down the dist clamp. You will be good to go at this point.

I would also prime the carb to prevent excessive cranking.

Once it is running you will want to set total timing at about 34 degrees at 2500 rpms.

So if your dist has a vacuum advance disconnect it & plug the source. Your dist probably has a mechanical advance system. You want all the advance in at 2500 rpm. This is easiest with a timing light that has a built in degree dial, or you can use a balancer tape.

Turn the carb linkage screw to hold the engine at 2500. Dial the light to 34 degrees; turn the distributor until the timing mark/ light shows tdc. Rev the engine up a little more to make sure you are not getting any extra advance. Tighten down the dist clamp. Turn the carb idle screw down to where you want it... hook up the vac advance and take it for a drive... listen for pinging. These engines generally like 34 to 36 degrees mechanical. Ignore the initial / idle timing.
 

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I do have vacuum advance. Ill go through with all of this tomorrow, thanks for the help!
 

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I looked back at your prior posts and I have a bad feeling about what you are about to do. I am going to assume,(there goes that word) that you used new head gaskets, cleaned or better yet replaced all head bolts. Cleaned the threads in the block, lightly oil the bolts and properly torqued the head down using the right pattern and steps building up to final torque. pipe dope thread sealer on the exhaust manifold bolts. Have the valve covers off during the oil pump priming to see what is happening. Also to verify the compression and exhaust stroke when setting the distributor in the engine and lining up the number 1 cylinder and set initial timing. New spark plugs, primed the oil system until plenty of oil got up top, guaranteeing that you have sufficient oil on all of the bearings, you would rotate the crank by hand every 90 degrees while the drill is priming your oil pump. Fill the fuel bowls through the vent tubes on the carb so you can prime the engine using the accelerator pump on the carb, not pouring gas into the top of the carb, Very dangerous. Have a friend and a fire extinguisher handy. If you think this is too much to do, you should not try to do it yourself. Safety first, always. Initial timing is all you need as you are not breaking in a new engine, just getting it started. 5 degrees initial with the vacuum advance disconnected and the vacuum port on the carb plugged. Fully charge the battery and use a remote starter if available. Parts stores sell them for less than $15-20. Handy to have in your tool box.
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I have new head gaskets installed and i used the proper torque sequence first torqueing them to 35 first then the full 75 or whatever it is, i cant recall. I cleaned the head bolts and threads and sealed them with oil. I bought new spark plugs I havent primed the oil system yet so i will be sure to do that. I will have a friend standing by with not one but 3 fire extinguishers as we have learned that fire extinguishers go bad. I always assumed when people said anything regarding "pouring gas in the top of the carb" the meant the vent tubes. I will be sure to get a remote starter as well. We're gonna roll it out side so if it backfires out the carb it cant catch anything on fire.
 

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Just a FYI, your distributor rotor in your pic is pointing to #2 not #1 so if you're thinking to hook your timing light to that spark plug you're on the wrong side of the motor. #1 is driver side front.
 
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